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Post by Tight Git on Jun 1, 2009 17:09:02 GMT
Its the standard problem of a non budging flywheel, tried a puller just managed to shear a bolt, getting another bolt tomorrow, but was wondering if the puller isnt going to work what the alternatives are...im not using the Flywheel again, so..
bit of Wood and a BIG hammer through the starter motor hole turn and repeat?
any other ideas?
Cheers
Alastair
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Post by Rachel on Jun 1, 2009 18:46:53 GMT
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Post by Miniböttcher on Jun 1, 2009 20:32:42 GMT
did you remove the locating washer, which lines up the crank and flywheel, if that is not removed while your pulling the flywheel the bolt is pushing it back on and you will bend and snap the centre bolt on the puller ,
also once you have the centre bolt on the puller done up tight or as tight as you want to do it , stand round one side of the engine and tap the 3 bolts of the puller that bolts on to the flywheel, this will shock it and normally makes it pop off,
do not stand in front of the flywheel if you have the engine out the car as it flies off, and will hurt if it hits you!!!!!!
but sometimes they basically weld them self on to the crank and can be a pain in the arse to get off, then it will be a case of heating or grinding it off, see rachels post about her car, there are photos of shawn cutting it off
good luck
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Post by mccarefree on Jun 1, 2009 20:58:10 GMT
If it's just bl00dy tight, try this: The trick to removing anything that's attached to a tapered shaft is firstly to apply pressure on the item you are trying to remove, in this case via the puller. Then belt the thing on the side of the taper (i.e. the side of the flywheel boss in this case) with a big hammer and a drift. Hitting the flywheel through the starter motor hole won't do it, somehow the shock doesn't work in the right direction. I know this works, I've done it. I also used to pop suspension ball joints like this years ago, (which offer the same problem on a smaller scale) before I had a proper separator. As the others have said though, sometimes all the tools and tricks in the World won't do it if the flywheel's been fretting and welded itself to the crank. Good luck, Martin
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Post by Tight Git on Jun 1, 2009 21:09:50 GMT
Ok,
cheers guys,
Yer ive heard of people taking them off with a grinder, not the most preferable method, due to possible damamge to the Crank.
The washer is off, i made sure of that after hearing about loads of people doing it. i tried tapping the bolts, when the pressure was on, and there was no popping. I remember the Flywheel coming off the mokes engine, that came out with some force, scaring the Sh*T out of me! haha
i need to visualise where to Hit the flywheel?, surely you cant hit it from the front?
Oh god that Grinder looks ever closer...
Alastair
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Post by mccarefree on Jun 1, 2009 21:17:15 GMT
Alastair, When I said the taper, I meant the boss on the flywheel that the crank taper passes through....the raised bit hat the locating washer sits on top of. You attach the puller and do it up as tight as you are comfortable with, then wallop the side of the boss using a club hammer and a long drift (something around the size of a long socket extension). Keep hitting it (it helps if you turn the flywheel every now and again so you aren't always hitting the same point) and, if it ain't welded on sooner or later it should come off with a bang. You may damage the flywheel but you said that was going to be scrap? I can't promise success but you have a good chance. Martin.
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Post by Tight Git on Jun 1, 2009 21:28:18 GMT
Im with you now Martin, that sounds like a bloody good idea! definitely trying that tomorrow. Yer the Fly is scrap, 2 reasons...First i dont like those Verto Clutches wich this one is, just not as good as the old Diaphragm jobs, secondly cant uprate the spring on the Verto and third, the pre-verto flywheels can be lightened more!!  |
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Post by mccarefree on Jun 1, 2009 21:34:10 GMT
Best of luck. You might find you have more confidence to really hit the drift hard if you hold the outer (your) end of the drift tightly in a pair of Mole grips. Less chance of broken fingers! M
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Post by Tight Git on Jun 7, 2009 23:13:46 GMT
Managed to get the Fly off, with about 300 odd Ft. Lbs of Torque i wreckon, it shot across, and im not exagerating i measured it, the room and landed 6ft away from the crank nose! the actual crank was in brilliant condition, little unexpected, so im happy!!!
Thankyou for all the help and offers in the wanted section!
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Post by mccarefree on Jun 8, 2009 20:45:43 GMT
Nice one Alastair. So what did you do...just keep winding up on the puller?
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Post by Tight Git on Jun 8, 2009 22:28:20 GMT
Basically yes!! One person, a Scoffolding bar, 2 people Holding the engine and one very loud bang and a happy mini owner! Engine looks like this now:  |
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